Love this eye liner and it's basically like using a nice jumbo marker to line your eyes if you like a nice dramatic look. I find I skinny, fine liners that are popular just make my eyes look squinty and narrow. But this one gives me a nice bright eye and retro mod look that I love so much. It also stays put for the most part unless I am sweating like a piggy. But even then it just shades slightly in the crease and looks like I did it on purpose.